brujo
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Post by brujo on Sept 17, 2007 16:44:21 GMT -5
A silent core must prevail in order to sustained the patterns created by spirit.
Until now stalking has been described in a apprenticeship level. It requires a lot of imagination because there is no clear definition or goal. At this level it only helps to understand our behavior and the people around us. Our behavior is the first guide to discover the conditioning of the mind and its agreements. Opening a window to new experiences or rather re experiencing. What we should keep in mind is that we have been conditioned to think a certain way and this is not at all a rebellion against the world but rather a discovering of will. The first step is to unmask agreements that limit your view.
___Jaguar steps
Jaguars are already masters of perception. No one can be a master of perception if they haven't discovered truth. Some truths can be explained and discussed but only one true link exist that allows everything to flourish. It allows everything to be in its essence its own force without the participation of our input. It is our inclination to arrange everything to our past experiences that dulls the full impact of being present in an infinite act. Duality begins when we are not able to put into action words. The mind continues to create its words but there is no experience in our body.
The first step is to gather the experiences that will help you wile hunting links of truth. I call them links of truth because once we discover the essence of anything and truly inbody it ... other moldings loose their glue.
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binrui
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Post by binrui on Sept 20, 2007 6:06:57 GMT -5
I think you mean by link of truth, an underlying low that explain the way things happen. What experiences do you think help hunting links of truth?Perhaps the experinece of the unknown?
The stalking consist of creating an uncertainty in what we know so that we operate over this undetermination.
I like reading you in english,i think you express yourself better than in spanish.
I have no idea how am i read in english?My english teacher said that i spoke in english like shakespeare.jaja
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brujo
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Post by brujo on Sept 20, 2007 15:45:30 GMT -5
It's not an underlining truth because to our tonal there are millions of compartments, each one can have an underlining to its pattern.. in order for it to be a link of truth there has to be a transformation of these compartments.
Como tu lo explicas encuentras el intento dentro de la corriente manifestada en froma. Yo hablo de la corriente misma. Un problema muy grande que encuentro en explicar las cosas. Es que ya no hablo de aprender sino sobre el mundo cuando ya estas completo.
Tienes rason... cuando hacechas buscas encontrar la ventana entre dos perspectivas para entonces darte cuenta de la verdad. Que estas dos perspectivas actuan gracias a lo que tu expresas, el dialogo. Lo magnifico del silencio es que estas dos descripciones desaparecen por completo.
Cuando estas completo creas una linea recta que alcansa todas las experiencias dentro de ti. Este silencio las disuelve dejando la livertad de expresarte de la essencia. La cual actua sobre todas las demas perspectivas.
Actua sobre ellas porque no eres el unico que las mantiene fijas. El mundo no deja de ser el mundo.
bueno espero que te de una idea.
Si no esta muy claro, me ayudan las preguntas.. porque dejo muchas cosas afuera.
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binrui
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Post by binrui on Sept 22, 2007 3:33:58 GMT -5
Si mas ó menos me doy una idea.Soy consciente de que no es facil hablar de estas cosas.Bueno si que uno puede hablar de ellas ,lo dificil quizas es que se te entienda.
Es lo mismo que ocurre con las enseñanzas de Don Juán,uno puede intuir mas o menos lo que se le cuenta,pero solo en la experiencia se encontrará la verdadera comprensión.
Estaba leyendo el libro del vacío de Musashi,donde se habla del camino del guerrero como el camino del vacío.Creo que hay una similitud con lo que tu hablas. Entiendo como el camino del vacío, a esa corriente que se genera como una consecuencía de desapego de la manifestación de esa corriente en las formas.
El mundo sigue siendo el mismo ,pero quizás tu no si se alcanza esa linea recta que hay entre la dualidad.
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Post by HSH on Sept 25, 2007 15:09:40 GMT -5
Me gusta que mezclan los lenguajes asi que voy a continuar en Ingles.
I saw a video recently, called the Mayan calendar goes North (if you're interested I'll search the link), and the guy said our mind has a "flicker frequency", it can only handle 24 images per second. And underlying that, we have pure consciousness, which can handle millions of images per second. Perhaps that brings some clarity into the discussion, which seems to be about stalking the experience, or getting out of the mind with its slow flicker frequency and get into the flow of millions of perceptions simultaneously. (Sometimes I get there, but more or less by chance, I'd like to find out how to switch it on at will.) (Or let's rather say, switch off the mind at will.)
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brujo
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Post by brujo on Sept 25, 2007 17:55:32 GMT -5
Im going to think about it .. for a day. Ill try to piece it together.
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Post by nomad on Sept 25, 2007 21:54:25 GMT -5
I feel that this link is understood through awareness rather than its configurations. I am a configuration.. but I am made of truth.
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brujo
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Post by brujo on Sept 26, 2007 15:42:18 GMT -5
Yes, its a mastery of awareness. It is like the shadow exercise that DJ asked CC as a not doing. This exercise alines our awareness making the shadows emerge.
In essence the mastery of awareness is the art of taking different elements with in our view and deliberately using them synchronize the goal in hand.
Once this happens there is another hidden aspect that enables us to configure other realities that are not available.
A good way to exercise is to use dreaming as a venue. You slowly seek to go beyond the usual alignments in dreaming.
This process is use to arrive to another level of awareness which is using the nahual to perceive with in our day.
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Post by HSH on Sept 27, 2007 13:55:37 GMT -5
Are there exercises for this dreaming, something to concentrate on during the day to get a certain dream, or you just wait and let it happen?
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brujo
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Post by brujo on Sept 27, 2007 15:53:07 GMT -5
The best exercise is to keep the serenity that comes when we have dreamt. Keep it going as long as you can. I write more about it tomorrow.
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Post by brujo on Oct 1, 2007 14:19:17 GMT -5
There is a very distinct knowledge we gain when we are able to chose in our dreams. It is also important to know what we have chosen and the response from our body. There are peaceful connections that can only arise once we have shed our baggage. Baggage is the accumulation of trapped energy do to an inner conflict that is not capable of fully expressing it self. This is a very personal process that I feel is truly the path to harmoniously change our sensitivity to other realities.
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binrui
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Post by binrui on Oct 23, 2007 3:47:06 GMT -5
Disculpen si hablo en español,pero es que al traducir a veces se me va la idea de lo que quierro decir,vosotros continuad en inglés si quereis.
He estado mirando algunas sombras,es así que se hace patente una doble perspectiva,la del objeto en sí y la de la sombra.Se puede mirar una u otra o ambas a la vez.Lo curioso es que la sombra cuando se la mira parece mas real,y lo que parece sombra entonces es el objeto.
A lo que iba es que siempre que miramos vemos una perspectiva,o varias,pero todo lo que se ve tiene necesariamente que tener esa perspectiva.Creo que cuando se para el dialogo interno se gana en paz,pero las perspectivas siguen estando ahí.
Excuses if I speak in spanish,but sometimes in the translation the idea of what i wanted to say blows away.You can continue speaking english if you like.
I´ve been loking to some shadows,this is how we can have a double perception,this one of the object,and that one of the shadow.We can look from one perspective,from the other,or both at the same time.The courious thing is that when we look the shadow,it seems more real than the object,and the object then is the shadow. What i wanted to say is that always that we look,we look from one perspective or several ones,but all that what we see,neceseraly has one.I think that when the dialog finishes there is a gain in peace,but the perspective is steal there.
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Post by Juss on Feb 3, 2008 15:07:34 GMT -5
Pardone moi mais j' ecoute un homme parles..... oh hmmmm I listened somene talking about the third eye. What is it all about? AND LETS STALK
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binrui
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Post by binrui on Feb 7, 2008 6:43:06 GMT -5
Hello
I think Don Juan diden't speak very much about the third eye to Carlos.I believe he said that some warriors or sourcerers were able to develop a third eye which as the Hindu Adja ,or the eye of Shiva was related to the power of clarividence.
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brujo
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Post by brujo on Feb 12, 2008 18:47:30 GMT -5
Lo que e aprendio sobre el punto de encaje es que el verdadero conocimiento existe en encontrar los elementos que nunca cambian en su essencia. Asi uno puede alcansar una base firme de donde poder explorar.
Uno de los libros que me ayudo bastante o tal vez solo aclaro esta idea fue El Arte de la Guerra ya que el ganar es tomar el completo. Lo que requiere un estudio de si mismo y de las fuezas exteriores.
Una de las mejor formas de encontrar el silencio es escuchandote.
saludos
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